Sims David Cook – Happy Holidays!

There’s not much stirring in the tard world, not even a mouse, just Ladynsearch telling me she’s going to hit me with a law soot for posting her message board review from DCO of the Cook show she attended. It’s dead with the exception of the Lambert Sparkle Cows spinning and spinning over Adam’s recent drunken troubles.

In this time between Christmas and New Years Eve it’s not unusual to feel nostalgic and to revisit the past. In that spirit may I present The Sims version of David Cook made by some Tard a couple of years or so ago.

What is amusing, disgusting and guffaw-worthy of these Sims stills is the fact that she apparently made Neal Tiemann and David Cook fall deeply in love/lust with each other. The last time I heard both of these guys are strictly hetero. I love the black undies in the bed and all the girly cuddling by two men too…

I just don’t get it. Did you know one of the most frequent search engine terms people find this place with is “Neal Tiemann David Cook porn”? Ugh! Nightmares!

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175 Comments on “Sims David Cook – Happy Holidays!”

  1. just dont get it Says:

    all i can say is – WHY?

  2. nonna-muss Says:

    Now I have to gouge my eyes out with a rusty fork. *gag*

  3. Mugsy Says:

    Tracy is talented.

    Pass that rusty fork.

  4. songkat7 Says:

    I will never understand it. There used to be someone on my twitter who’d squee over the guys when they tweeted each other, and once posted, “running off to slash fanfic now…” I do not follow this person anymore. I just don’t get it.

  5. Ali Says:

    During the idol tour there was a group of tards, I can’t remember who they were by name anymore, but they went to tons of shows and were proud that fans at the shows recognized (and ridiculed) them as “slashers”, the term they use for the gay porn they wrote online about David and Micheal Johns, who is a married hetero no less! *shakes head*

    • freedavidcook Says:

      see, that’s what I don’t get about fandoms. Not just this fandom but ALL fandoms I’ve seen seem to have this brigade of ‘slash’ fic writers that put the most openly heterosexual men in the most gay and absurd fan fiction. Cops? A daisy chain of gay fucking in the squad locker room. Boy band? A daisy chain of fucking in the dressing rooms. Bikers? A daisy chain of gay fucking in the clubhouse. Undertakers? A daisy chain of gay fucking in the embalming room. Doesn’t matter who or what they are it’s always the same yet the openly gay ones, get no slash…

  6. JennPaz Says:

    That deserves a big ol’ WTF!!!

  7. Burt Says:

    OMG. That’s all it needs.

    Add me to the “don’t get it” list – I’ve also seen it with other straight people (fans and celebs). Actually, I don’t think there is much in the David Cook fandom that doesn’t happen with other fans – worrying just how many fans like this are out there.

    Someone once posted here that the gay fantasies are a way for them to see the person sexually without having to think of them with other women (God forbid!) which kind of makes sense. But what I don’t understand is why a hetero fan gets sexual fulfillment (urgh! There’s a thought.) fantasizing about gay men getting it on. Is it because they think all gay men are being sensitive, crying after sex and hugging? Even so, why is that good if they’re doing it with a guy and you’re a straight woman?

    • AmyB Says:

      Burt
      I think you are on to something. These women want to see David as a sexual being they just don’t want to think of him with a women. And one that would be prettier and sexier than they are. So it’s safe to think of him and have fantasies of him with a man. No compatation there. I don’t get it or understand it myself.

    • Nist Says:

      I never understood slash fic. This explanation makes sense, since the slash fic results in avoidance of the fantasy figure’s involvement with other women. Still weird.

  8. Nist Says:

    Four and a half days without tweets from The Chosen One. 🙂 The natives are getting restless.

    dconevermind
    @thedavidcook ah come on man we deserve a tweet or two baby

    zenyyoung
    @thedavidcook twitter sillence is almost unbearable. Cookie crumbs is all we ask…

    kimmiechick
    @thedavidcook Feeling sad thT a fellow Co Worker died unexpectedly b4 Christmas and her Funeral is 2day need a Hug or a tweet!xo

    chursy
    @thedavidcook, morning fancy face, how is it going in your land, land of magic. fandom is fine, needing voice, would be yours

    safroniamay
    @thedavidcook Talk to us David!

    mainedcfan1
    @thedavidcook Miss you so much! Hope you’re enjoying your break. Would love a tweet! 🙂

    His next tweet will probably consist of exactly four words – “Happy New Year, everyone!”, but they’ll go batshit insane over it anyway.

    I’ve been catching up on DCO and it looks like there’s a long, drawn out conversation about whether or not it’s safe for David to buy a Harley. Apparently he was seen shopping in a Harley store before Christmas – which means he’s buying a bike, right? 🙂

    • Jen Says:

      Jesus. No wonder he doesn’t tweet. Someone asked Andrew during a twitter party recently if he ever gets tweets that are just over the top and he answered all the time in all caps. lol

      You know, my friend went in to a Harley store a couple weeks before Christmas too. And bought her mom…a shirt. lol

      • Ali Says:

        I bought my dog a Harley collar haha!

        He should have RCA tweeting for him with only business news etc, nothing personal. He needs to start distancing himself from those fans, maybe a break will do them all good?

    • Fluffy Says:

      Fancy face? Hee.

      • nonna-muss Says:

        That’s not the first time I’ve seen Chursy call him fancy face. What does that even mean? Why would you call a grown ass man fancy face anyway? My husband would probably check to see if I had a fever or was stroking out if I called him fancy face.

      • freedavidcook Says:

        Nonna, mine would laugh, point and make fun of me if I called him ‘fancy face’ the only time I’ve heard that term used is in ancient advertising for makeup back in the 1960s when you could still get away with goofy language and be taken seriously. Fancy face ain’t not compliment these days. That frau is stuck in the 60s, the early 60s.

        Sorry folks. I should have marked that posting as ‘rusty fork worthy’ and posted a link to it. Trust me, there are worse ones. I just pulled out the three that were the least puke invoking. Some of the Sims stills show Cook and Tiemann making out in full lip lock. NOBODY with their right mind wants to see that shit.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        FDC, I’ve seen the worst ones, thank you for sparing me the sight again. To think this shit is done by grown women *shudders*. Even in a back water town, there has to be more to do than this. Take an online course, volunteer, help an elderly neighbor…..anything would be better than this crap.

      • Karen P. Currie Says:

        “Fancy face” was a term of endearment used on the soap Days of Our Lives years ago between uber-couple Bo and Hope Brady — it was also the name of their sailboat.

        Always thought it was annoying back then. Even worse now. Those who remember that stupid name and worse, are still using it today, have dated themselves nicely.

        I watched that show back then, I know how old I am and I wouldn’t call anyone that name even if they gave me a headstart getting away from them.

        Fancy face? What’s next? Party pantz? Ugh.

      • freedavidcook Says:

        I think i’d like “Party Pantz” better…

      • Jen Says:

        Lol Karen, that’s exactly what I thought when I saw that nickname.

  9. Amusedbyfandom Says:

    Off topic but, anyone hear what went on in Tulsa? Zoo2 and a couple of other people flew out just in case the guys had a show. Did a show take place? It’s mean of me but I will laugh my ass off if no show took place or any of the guys showed up and played for 20 minutes.

    • Karen P. Currie Says:

      Oh she was there, alrighty.

      zoo2Jeannine Botting

      Well the night at Blue Turtle Tavern is over. They played til the place closed. What a blast!

      15 hours ago FavoriteRetweetReply

      zoo2Jeannine Botting
      Great times in Tulsa tonight! Can’t thank @DrGonzo22 and @andyskib enough. You guys are truly special.

      16 hours ago

      And another of the usual suspects..
      cool_shadescoolshades
      For those of you who didn’t make it to this particular show…I am so, so sorry.

      • nonna-muss Says:

        No one had to make it. Angie was there to ustream and Lobsters1 provided video of everything. It must have freaked Andy the fuck out to see them all there. He knows where they are from, he knows the lengths they had to go to to get there. If the four of them weren’t already on the list for being creepy, they are now.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        Ah…Coolshades was there. I’ll look forward to her 16 page recap of her adventures in stalking poor Andy, lol.

    • Karen P. Currie Says:

      I haven’t found “Coolie’s” recap but if you read BFF Nicole’s recap (she of the flaming red bad haircut) you’ll get the picture. It appears that Coolie bared the Tattoo from Hell but it sounds like Nic_Leigh scored the most face time with the Skibster.

      http://nleighh.wordpress.com

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        That recap was just….uh….just….if I didn’t know a grown woman wrote it, I would really think it was a teenage girl. What’s with Coolie complaining to Andy about the cost of her and Zoo2 flying to see him? Seriously?!? Like they were doing him a favor. Coolie really doesn’t get that people are mocking her for that fugly tattoo. Sad.

      • Jen Says:

        I just don’t even know what to say about that. I do think it’s funny that they don’t even think about the possibility that being someone’s favorite person when you don’t even *really* know them would be really fucking weird for the person.

      • Rubber Ducky Says:

        I like how she rats hanging around a bar with a bunch of frauen and nobodies as the highlight of her life. Bet her husband and kids would be thrilled to hear it.

      • nonna-muss Says:

        I just got around to reading this. Don’t they get that they were being mocked by Andy, Bryan and Travis? Oops, I guess not.

  10. Amusedbyfandom Says:

    This showed up in my timeline:

    Mgentry10
    @thedavidcook RT @Kyrie1012 @wehomusic I agree. He’s not perfect. WTF has he been for the last month? I’m going weary. // Never enough…

    I’m all for calling entitled tards out but I wish Mgentry didn’t @reply David with this nonsense. Having said that, if old Kyrie1012 reads here: Where’s he been? Well, lets see. His tour finished 12/9. That’s just 21 days ago. He apparently went home to visit family and enjoy the holiday season like most normal musicians with a break in their schedule would probably do. If a girlfriend exist, I’m sure he’s spending time with her too. 🙂

    Do these people actually think the man exist to entertain them and only them 24/7 365/days a year? Jesus, get a life.

    • Amusedbyfandom Says:

      Opps, that’s “growing” weary not “going”. Even tards deserve to be quoted correctly, lol.

    • AmyB Says:

      Yes they do thing that he only exist to entertain them 24/7/365 days a year. Remember 2012 is a leap year so he has to entertain them an extra day next year.

    • freedavidcook Says:

      Oh no! He’s supposed to be their superman and keep them rocking 24/7/364 according to tard lore. Heaven forfend if he might need to sleep or eat or do anything away from the tards. They own him like the company store owns their miners..

    • Jen Says:

      Somebody tweeted Andrew and asked what David’s plans are for NYE. Uh, none of your damn business?

  11. Jen Says:

    It’s nice to see that Scott is still on DCO claiming to have insider info without actually spilling much. ha

    • Amusedbyfandom Says:

      That’s because he has nothing to spill other than his bullshit. Why those people haven’t caught on to him is beyond me. He’s been pontificating for 3 years now. Most of the shit he’s claimed to have inside info on turned out to be flat out wrong so many times it’s not even funny. Scott doesn’t know a damn thing.

      Two threads on that site drive me insane. Just people spinning their opinions and acting like everyone else should treat it as factual information. None of them knows David or has a relationship with the band members or works for RCA or any one else in the music industry. Scott is one of the worse but definitely not the only one.

      • Jen Says:

        Lol is one of those the F3 thread, where people’s personal opinions are substituted for fact? haha

      • songkat7 Says:

        Well, Ed alleged to me via PM conversations that he would have banned Scott long ago if he knew Scott was holding himself up as a spokesman for David. Scott was gone for awhile, so I thought he was truly banned. But now Scott is back. I told Ed I was done with that site if Scott is allowed back there, and Ed said he’d “check into it”. That was weeks ago.

        I think they just don’t care who posts, who says what, and who misrepresents David on that site. Utter nonsense.

      • Jen Says:

        I think with Scott it’s more that he thinks he’s speaking for the band as I imagine that’s where he gets any “scoop” but that’s really interesting to me. I mean, saying that his producer basically made David choose between the band and finishing the album is pretty ballsy.

      • nonna-muss Says:

        Jen, please elaborate! I can’t bring myself to go to DCO. It’s too convoluted and my eyes glaze over after reading about 3 posts. What did Scott say? David had to choose? That makes no sense, he still has his band and he finished the record. What am I missing?

      • amusedbyfandom Says:

        Nonna, I’m not Jen but I’ll see if I can sum things up. The band didn’t play on some of the songs on This Loud Morning. One of those songs being fan fave Goodbye to the Girl (David/Andy/Neal cowrite, even through Neals only contribution to the song was the guitar solo, but that’s another story, lol). Months ago, Scott claimed this was because the band had a contract with RCA that ran out before the record was finished and RCA didn’t want to renew ( makes no sense to me, contracts are renewed all the time, can’t imagine any of the guys were asking for big bucks, but whatever).

        Now Scott is claiming he has super duper inside info that Matt Scerelic didn’t want the band involved at all and David had to chose between his band and finishing the record. Of course to go along with this, David and Matt didn’t get along and had a difficult relationship that resulted in David having to compromise and put songs on the record that the super tards don’t like or according to Scott aren’t the 100% “gems” that populate the “brilliantly produced” 11:59 (Ryan Star’s last record) Oddy enough produced by the very same Matt S.

        I think Scott has it in him to write one hell of a cheesy fiction novel. He should probably do that and give DCO a break from his hot air.

        ps: I love Goodbye to the Girl, but not because the “band” had a hand in writing it. (I don’t fawn over Neal as a songwriter like some ing the fandom) It’s just a good song IMO.

      • amusedbyfandom Says:

        Jen,

        Bingo. I’v come very close to spraining both eyeballs reading the BS on that F3 thread.

      • songkat7 Says:

        Jen – what do you mean by Scott getting “scoop” by the band? See, that’s what he has people believing, that he has an in with the band, but I know for a fact that he does not.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        What?!?! Songkat, you mean the LA crew (Scott, John, Zoo etc.) hanging out at every hole in the wall club/bar to mingle with Neal or going to Kira’s $40/hr makeup parties or tweeting Andy and his fiance doesn’t make them BFF’s with the band. 😉

      • nonna-muss Says:

        Jiminy Crickets Amused! I can’t believe the tards fall for his crap. I suppose this is insider information that he was told and he can’t tell ALL of it and who told it to him. My guess is it is ‘insider’ info, it’s the voices ‘inside’ Scott’s head that told him these things.

        I guess this all follows along with the faction of tards that think David and Neal hate each other now. They think Neal moved out because of problems with the record and some think Neal left the band because David let the record company take control and some think David kicked Neal out of the band because of some reason that is so stupid I can’t even remember what it is. They think David played Movin’ Out and The Hand That Feeds on tour as a purposeful slap in the face to Neal.

        For crying out loud, we’re talking about two grown men, not kids fighting over a toy on the playground. Couldn’t it just be that Neal wanted to live with his girlfriend and he wanted to play music that was closer to his tastes? Why do they have to hate each other? I do not believe any of the conspiracy theories. Since David and Neal didn’t tweet each other for their birthdays it’s proof in their eyes. My guess is they called each other instead.

        All of the time spent by the tards on all of this amazes and astounds me. I chuckle when I read it because of the stupidity.

      • Jen Says:

        Amused summed it up pretty well. Scott is claiming the band was on retainer and when it ran out Serletic didn’t push the label to renew and used session musicians instead, thus making David choose between the band and getting the album finished and disrespecting the band. Oh but he won’t say any more than that. Have you ever noticed there’s never any criticism of the band, only of David?

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        “Have you ever noticed there’s never any criticism of the band, only of David?”

        That’s a good question Jen. Don’t think Andy has one but Neal has a fan site (they both have threads on DCO). Neal’s site seems pretty dead the last time I looked months ago but I certainly didn’t see any critique or in depth examination of his music or lyrics there. But then again how can one find fault with genius or maybe to use a term Scott favors, I guess their fans are still in the “honeymoon stage”.

        The few times that someone has dared to say something mildly critical about Neal or Andy in their DCO threads, that person gets shut down and shooed away pretty quick by Zoo2 and few others, lol.

  12. Sue Says:

    Omg what rabbit hole did I just fall into…

  13. Amusedbyfandom Says:

    Songcat7,

    I don’t know about anyone else but I would love to read what you know about Scott and the gang and their claims to be in with the band. Can’t stand Scott’s and a few others need to be King and Queen of Cookland, lol

    • songkat7 Says:

      Remember one of David’s friends who openly posted on DC-org, railing against Scott in one of his posts, telling him he’s basically a liar and that “you wish you knew a fraction of what I know” – something like that. That guy really is a friend of David’s, but of course Scott poo-poo’d that post and the poster himself.

      I honestly have no idea what the band thinks regarding the California people stalking every show, every appearance, and Kira’s shows. I would imagine this makes those people think they’re “in”, but that’s pretty much what many of the tour stalkers thought, especially in the early days of buying the band drinks after shows the FEW times that might have happened. But we all know that Scott is a bag of hot air, and his followers are unfortunately duped beyond belief as to what is truth and what is fiction.

      Bottom line is, if these people really were “in” with the band, they’d be VIP at every show without having to pay for it.

      • Ali Says:

        Exactly songkat7! I don’t know how the band feels knowing these people are stalking there every move, socially and not just at shows, but if they felt “good” about these tards supporting them in this way, they would be VIP at every show they attend for free, and not be online 24/7 because they would already be “in” with Dave and company right? Why be online pontificating his every move if you already know it…being bff’s and all lol.

      • nonna-muss Says:

        I always felt that people that actually do have a connection/inside info wouldn’t have to brag online and would respect David and the band enough to keep their traps shut. IMO, the more someone brags, the less likely there is any connection except in their dreams. The more insider info they divulge the more likely it’s conceived in their own little minds. Especially if they’re such ‘good friends’ and ‘the best fans’. It should set off alarm bells to anyone reading their long winded tales that it’s false and fabricated.

      • Fluffy Says:

        That’s what I always thought, too – if they were really “VIPs” with David/the band… why are they camping out on sidewalks and paying for meet and greets? Seems like you wouldn’t have to pay to hang out with your buddies, no?

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        Yeah, I remember that guy. IIRC, Scott lead a little troop of his followers over there to call the guy a troll. Haha, that was good reading.

      • nonna-muss Says:

        FWIW, I never believed that was really David’s friend anyway. The same with Dirty Di on DCU. They both made broad and sweeping statements that left so much to interpretation. They also dropped “facts” that there would be no way for anyone to prove unless they actually knew David personally.

      • songkat7 Says:

        Nonna, that guy is a friend of David’s. I don’t know anything about DCU, but the other guy is.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        You’re probably right Nonna, that guy claimed that David had gotten very large tattoo or sleeve….that hasn’t happened. I just enjoyed the cray cray drama. Read the girlfriend thread at DCU once and never went back….the crazy was off the charts, with some claiming David was a virginal monk and others calling him a manwhore, lol. Wonder were those posters ended up?

      • nonna-muss Says:

        Yeah, didn’t he also say that the last record was going to be released in July of 2010 or something? Too much wrong to be right.

      • songkat7 Says:

        The friend on dc-org is the first one who said the album wouldn’t come out until 2011. Scott criticized him for saying that, but guess who was right? Trust me, he is a real friend.

  14. Ali Says:

    I haven’t been keeping up with Scott and crew, not even worth trudging through the insanity there just for laughs. I get my info here lol. But thanks to those who do go there (so did the LA crew really stalk that Tulsa friends show, unbelievable?)…anyhow it seems Scott does a lot of backtracking after his info and opinions fail as usual. Such as when the long awaited cd was released wasn’t he one of the many tards who thought it was the best evaaa, and deserved countless Grammy awards and would go multi-platinum perhaps lmao! And then it didn’t and now they begin the disection, wtf?!

    As for the Neal and David drama, as usual they are clueless, band mates often disagree, or just grow to different taste, or individual goals change. Why would they tweet each other, when they are actually friends? I believe they have each others phone numbers lol!

    • songkat7 Says:

      Plus, if there was such a problem between band members, why did Neal go to the show in Southern Cal and go backstage, then hang with Devin afterwards? Seems to me that if there was such a problem between David and Neal, that might not have happened.

      David doesn’t tweet for every single event that happens. He didn’t tweet congrats to Kyle on the birth of his daughter, so I guess that means he secretly hates Kyle too, eh?

      Geez, how did friends communicate before Twitter? 😉

    • Jen Says:

      Only Zoo went to Tulsa. And Coolshades of course. Angie and Lobsters1 are at least local-ish.

  15. mousie Says:

    I remember that, it was Kara, who was also a “Mavid-tard”, I think she was also involved in giving David and Michael Johns all that Mavid crap back on the AI tour.

    Unbelievably, she has managed to find a way to make money of off her photoshop skills, she sells heavily shopped pictures of Adam Lambert’s bass player. http://www.catcherofdreamz.printroom.com/ViewGalleryPhoto.asp?userid=catcherofdreamz&gallery_id=2588594&image_id=2&pos=15

    • mousie Says:

      And that was meant to be a reply to Nonna-muss about who it was who did the chops of David doing it with himself.

      • nonna-muss Says:

        Thanks mousie. So now she’s moved on to Madam’s band? Well, I guess that’s good for Cook. I always remember the picture she chopped of Cook 69’ing himself. I think I puked when I saw it and learned my lesson to not look at anything she posted ever again.

      • mousie Says:

        I don’t entirely know if she still has a thing for David , I only run into her when she is being mocked by Adam fans.
        I think she was doing chops of Neal with Adam Lambert for a while, but I think now she only does ~art photography.

        I know the bassist posed for her, but she runs a merch store for him and he gets a cut of it. I think she was also kissing up to the guitarist Adam fired.

  16. sansdelusions Says:

    Well I’m back -sort of -still on vacay and am
    Posting on my iPhone here – so pls excuse
    the inevitable typos. I am pretty sure what
    I’m commenting on here has been posted
    before (as in old news) but for the benefit of
    Newbies here or if u forgot – here goes.

    This is in reference to Scott and the guy on
    the Dash who was posting stuff and alleging
    to be David’s friend, it turns out this was true. David was his best man at his wedding and is his son’s godfather. Now whatever possessed this dude ( called himself Terrible One or TO) to start blabbing on DCO-org I
    do not know – but in fact he did – for all I know some of his posts may still be there buried in the archives-I just don’t care enuf to look but it was around Aug-Sept 2010 – anyhow it was ‘TO’ who alleged then that David’s record was delayed til 2011 and that David was battling the label over the first singsingle (guess we know who won that one) – this is the point where Scott barged in and said several rather derogatory things to TO and that was that. TO also said that David was very pissed about TO spilling the beans and I believe there was some rift as a result (no clue if they kissed and made up) – also about the sleeve or large tat that TO said said D was planning – also true – but he did not go thru with it (then) – it was going to cover his entire chest – well I guess common sense won out there- hope so! But none of this again is “news” – but it is, as far as I know pretty much the way it went down – the only mystery here is why this TO would say anything in a public forum about someone he calls a friend. That does bother me. Well I hope this message appears the way I wrote it – damn iPhone !!!

    • AmyB Says:

      I felt and still do feel sorry for David that an actual friend of his posted all that he did. I liken what Terrible One did to what his tard fans do. I think he had info and wanted to get attention by sharing it, same way as the tards do to try to get attention from other tards. I see it with them trying to one up the other about how much time they spent at M&G and how many shows they went to etc. I kind of expect the tards to do this…. To have his actual friend do this to him is beyond what is right. I figure he’s learning who his true friends really are and who he can trust with what.

    • Nist Says:

      Thanks, sansdelusions, for summarizing for the newbies. 🙂 I’m one who didn’t know about any of that. I think I remember David tweeting a picture of himself dressed for a wedding he was in, but I don’t know if it was this guy’s wedding or not. I could definitely see Scott not appreciating being challenged as the King of Facts, lol.

      • Burt Says:

        I’d forgotten this. It’s one of the few boards I’ve visited and it made me laugh so hard. I don’t know why I didn’t run away then but I guess I could see the funny side in a group of women that were amazed when they found out he wore glasses and seemed totally obsessed with how he smelled. Little did I know that was the tip of the iceberg and they are relatively sane.

        I remember the friend’s posts – can’t say if he was real but it struck me as very odd that a friend would be sharing details of David’s life on a fan board (the posts included where he was, what he was doing, as well as details about the new album, record label and stories from back in the day). I could be wrong but I think he said David knew he was posting and he had been in trouble before for spilling too much (not record label details but stories posted before that). I don’t know, it just seemed weird but maybe David was happy with it once upon a time and the whole Scott situation was the prompting they needed to put a stop to it (thinking back, I wonder if it was around the same time David became more cagey about where he was and backed away from Twitter). Some of the details did fit but then others didn’t seem to (he may well have predicted the release year but weren’t they still putting the album together at that stage? If so, would they have been talking about the single release that early? It is possible but seemed early.) or were vague so could have been guessed. I’m not sure how anyone could have known for sure with the internet being what it is but the thing is, a lot of people there seemed like they would have believed it because they wanted to believe it (that whole inside information thing again).

        And I agree with everyone that has said it – if you have inside information, you don’t share it f you have respect for the person. You just don’t do it. If you wanted to share something for whatever reason then you would definitely not post it on the subject’s own site, using your real name and criticizing the subject. If you ever did have insider access you won’t keep it much longer with that behavior. Maybe there is truth in what Scott is saying, I have no idea, but sharing it like he has just makes everyone doubt him.

    • Dani Says:

      This guy? Definitely saw pics of Dave with the pink tie wedding attire.

      http://www.david-cook.org/Terrible-One-m878.html

  17. Nist Says:

    Apparently all hell broke loose on DCO and I missed it. 😦

    From what I can tell, it was the F3 thread that started it. I’ve been watching that thread since the beginning, and it’s been so interesting to watch it stop and start. First, some conversation/opinions will get going there. (I don’t care that it’s not *all* factual, it’s supposed to have opinions. And yeah the original poster is a little annoying. But at least it’s interesting and written by some people who seem to have some brains – unlike most of the sycophants at DCO). Then some overprotective ninnies will come screaming in complaining, and the F3 thread dies off from their bullying and drops off page one. Well, for whatever reason, people started participating at F3 recently … and it didn’t die off. More lurkers who I’d never seen before started participating, and the regulars who tried to shut off the conversation before weren’t succeeding in shutting it off this time.

    So the regulars who tried to kill it off saw that F3 is where the action was, so to speak, and so they started participating because God forbid a DCO thread go on without their input. (They will NOT be ignored, I tell you!) That’s been a disaster. I don’t know what happened. Up until last Thursday – when was the last time I caught up on F3 – it was chugging right along, talking not just about David but the music industry in general. It was a pretty mature conversation.

    I check it this afternoon and Lisa’s been in there cleaning up and deleting posts. Something must have happened – from twitter I gather someone called somebody a “cult” and the alleged “cult” attacked back, lol.

    So pweller revived an old thread of Minstrel’s called “Try To Leave a Light On – your one-stop shop for positive vibes”. The people who would normally be attacking the F3 thread have moved over there – I guess to talk about the masterpiece that TLM is and the artiste that David is. Meanwhile, the DWoP thread is withering away, the refuge of those with tummy fetishes and such. 🙂

    The entire thing is freaking hilarious. I’m waiting to see who’ll win the battle – the “negative nellies” of F3 or the “positive princesses” of Leave a Light On. (And what about DWoP????) I’m sure before it’s over there will be dramatic stomping out of threads and/or DCO, never to return (meaning they’ll be back in 3 days lol).

    *munches popcorn, prepares more bowls for popping* Happy New Year!

    • Amusedbyfandom Says:

      LOL, I don’t think it was all that dramatic. Basically the people who like to critique EVERTHING about DC (songwriting, management, how many times he tweets and content of said tweets, etc.) called the people who really don’t focus on that stuff members of a cult for being positive and claiming that the positive people were scaring people away from posting on the board, especially men, heh. As if repeatedly posting about all the things you dislike about an artist on his official fan site is inviting to newbies. (btw, I see fault of both sides).

      Anyway, a few post were deleted, mostly the cult post which was condescending to say the least and the posts that responded to her. The mod stepped in to tell people to not focus on each other.

      Now one poster who fancies herself a PR wiz thinks David should entertain his fans by tweeting what he had for dinner, what he saw a the movies, maybe share his dating life to keep the tards interested because they might get bored and move on……to which I say: ByeBye tard!

      • Mandy Says:

        That F3 thread amazed me that people are willing to spend hours and hours of time writing about the faults of DC. Now they are calling him introvert. Lol. Who the hell is Likethis on DCO? I am wondering how she would feel if someone keeps pointing out that her personality is the cause of her failures.

      • Nist Says:

        Well I DO think it’s been pretty dramatic, especially if you look at the life of the entire thread and how people have been unhappy with it from the start. (Lisa had to mod it a couple of times at the beginning.) Just having that thread on DCO really strikes a sore spot with people. I don’t get it. My thing is: if you don’t like it, don’t read it. It’s not a crime to skip over a thread. Don’t contribute to it. It’s not the only thread there. But the tards don’t want to be left out of *anything*. That’s the problem.

        I didn’t see the exact cult posts, so obviously someone lost their temper recently, when all I’ve been seeing is civil discussion before that. But I’ve seen some tweets today encouraging people to keep posting in F3 because “we can’t let them win”. lol They can’t let it go.

        The past few weeks, David wasn’t being criticized in that thread. His *music* was being criticized and what songs people liked and didn’t like. (and no, it wasn’t always the main people who criticize everything.) I saw some stuff about his management. But hasn’t it been said over and over here that’s why some people turned to reading FDC – because they had nowhere to be honest about some of the things they were thinking about TLM and other things? Now there is a place – and people are trying to get rid of it. SMH. I’m sorry, that’s tard behavior at its finest. It might be passive-agressive tardness. But it’s tardness.

        The fact that so many people let one thread among hundreds threaten them is amusing to watch.

        As far as it being attractive or not to newbies, I bet if you go through that thread in the past month, it has more usernames contributing that haven’t been seen before or lately than any other thread. Obviously, they aren’t turning away because of the subject, at least when people were being civil. I sure as hell don’t see newbies at DWoP lol.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        I didn’t know FDC was set up to be honest about TLM, thought it was to point out the OTT tard behavior of all idol fans *shrug*

        Btw, I don’t think TLM is a flawless masterpiece, Take me as I am and Hard to Believe are songs I skip and don’t really like We Believe until it hits the bridge. The rest I enjoy very much. I think part of what some are trying to get across in the F3 thread is that while posters admit that other artist they listen too routinely put out albums that they may only like a few of the songs and don’t expect to love the whole thing, somehow David should have produced a record that was all things to all people and that every song be a potential top10 hit. Can you say hypocrite? 😉

        To be honest, I have to admit I’m not a fan of fan boards. They don’t enhance my interest in a musician since I’m perfectly capable of deciding what I like and don’t like without some sort of fan consensus. The people posting the same opinion over and over again simply bore the shit out of me. Trust me the vast majority of people posting in the F3 thread have been around DCO since it came on line in 2008. It’s not attracting newbies anymore than DWOP or whatever the hell the up with people/positive thread is called, lol.

      • Nist Says:

        No, FDC wasn’t set up for people to be honest about TLM. But go back through some recent posts and see the discussion about TLM, David’s promotion, etc. when posters go off topic (which is often). There’s a lot of it. And there have been comments about how FDC is the only place some feel comfortable expressing those views. *shrug*

        Eh, I’ve seen some recently registered (later than 2008) DCO’ers posting at F3. I don’t know if they’ve been lurking for a while or not. I know one of them is only 15 or 16 – for some reason I doubt he’s been lurking since 2008 but I could be wrong lol. If the people posting in F3 have been around since 2008, then a lot of them have been dormant. I’ve even seen some mention they’re delurking or coming out of lurkdom to comment.

        If fan boards bore someone, and they feel someone is making the same points over and over again, then why not leave that thread or that board? Why stay around to convince the thread posters that they’re hypocrites? Why stay around determined to “get across” something to them? To me, that’s just tards stirring things up.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        Nist, We’ll agree to disagree, no big deal. 🙂 Lurkers have usually been around for awhile, just never posted much. Tards take many forms, lol, to use your terminology: negative nellies and positive princesses….different sides of the same tard coin. LOL

    • Dani Says:

      Another weeds vs. roses smackdown?

      • Dani Says:

        BTW that was in response to Nist’s post above

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        Not Nist, but no 🙂 …..Weeds/Roses thing went down on twitter. The weeds that I can think of: Daina, Jeri, Becky, Lobsters1 etc. don’t post on DCO. The circle jerk occurring on the F3 thread involves mainly regular posters.

      • Nist Says:

        Dani, the F3 thread was started by a poster called likethis. She bumps it up for discussion from time to time and it will get a little bit of discussion and then fade away. But… the last time she bumped it up in early December, it just took off, with lots of posts from numerous people, and it hasn’t stopped. Obviously some people wanted a thread like that at DCO.

        I don’t know too much about why, but it’s quite clear a lot of people dislike likethis intensely. I see all kinds of snide remarks about her on twitter. She does seem to be a “glass is half-empty” type of person, but I find it easy to ignore or skim her posts when there have been so many other good contributions – at least there were until late last week, I guess. Maybe the fact that likethis is the thread starter contributes to so much hostility towards the thread. I don’t know.

    • Jen Says:

      Who posted the cult post?

    • Dani Says:

      Amused, I meant the negative nellie and positive princess titles Nist mentioned sounded similar to weeds and roses. I know the people behind them are not the same 🙂

  18. Burt Says:

    I have a question… was there a tards breakdown over David’s lack of Holiday/New Year/Thank you message (not tweets but written messages or videos)? I noticed a mini-breakdown other years wondering if there would be something but this year there was nothing and I’ve seen no complaints. That cannot be right.

    • Jen Says:

      All I saw were a few tweets to Andrew telling him to teach David how to tweet. But I haven’t really been looking either, to preserve my sanity. lol

  19. Burt Says:

    Oh and I saw this classy tweet and couldn’t not share it:

    From: @chursy
    Sent: 1 Jan 2012 02:34

    @lizann49 i would pay for a drunk treat from him. would be a mouth full. lol

    • Amusedbyfandom Says:

      Oh.My.Effing.God. I can’t even form a thought. Her life “revolves around Andy”…..Love how she puts Andy before her family and job. Jeebus pete, that’s some sad shit. This is what’s molding the minds of the next generation. Lord have mercy!

      • freedavidcook Says:

        You would be surprised by the percentage of tards that are teachers. it’s a frighteningly high number.

      • Ali Says:

        LOL, I don’t want to typecast teachers, but in my day I can think of a handful of my teachers who were the crazy cat lady types, or old school marms as they were once called lol…but now with the internet available, they can actually make friends with the rock star of there dreams and stalk them, with the hopes of…what marriage? I’m afraid to read coolshades manifesto.

      • Fluffy Says:

        Yikes. Your life revolving around what might as well be a fictional character for all the chance you have to have a relationship with them is sad and creepy.

        Though greater concern is a teacher telling us to “forever hold your piece.” Oh, the youth! What will become of the youth?!

        🙂

    • Karen P. Currie Says:

      That was just plain creepy.

  20. amber Says:

    so I googled andy + his fiance’s name to make sure they didn’t have a public wedding website (thank gawd they don’t) and someone wrote fanfiction…about their engagement. dear lord, are there no boundaries?

  21. 'NucksGal Says:

    Does anyone else think David Cook no longer does his own twitter account at all but may have handed it over to his mgmt or promo people?

    His tweets are infrequent & impersonal. They are generally promotion based (charity/friends etc) or generic holiday good wishes.

    He certainly has the right & the motive to do that & it’s not uncommon from what I understand. Plenty I’d celebrities seem to do it.

    They just read as more generic lately (the drunk-tweet NYE was an amusing break from that). He seems like a pretty charming witty guy in interviews & it doesn’t come thru as much anymore Combined with the reduction in # of tweets, made me wonder.

    Not complaining. Not “missing” him (plenty of others to follow on twitter). Just an observation & wondering what you guys think.

    • 'NucksGal Says:

      I mean “Plenty OF celebrities…” not plenty I’d …

      Reminder to me… read THEN post!

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        I think he runs his own twitter, his retweets lately have been about the charities he’s currently raising money for and Our Lady Peace (one of his favorite bands). I don’t see how tweeting about his favorite band, his friends and his charity work is impersonal. What should he be tweeting….pics of him and his girlfriend in bed? Lol. How much or what is enough for fans?

        I honestly don’t understand the focus on how much or what he tweets. Maybe he’s out enjoying his life and fans should too instead of over-analyzing everything the man does. Sorry ‘NucksGal if I come across as bitchy, no offense intended towards you, the whole David needs to tweet to entertain the fanbase is a pet peeve for me 😀

      • Dani Says:

        Lol Amused, the look on the faces of some if he ever did send out a picture of him and the GF would be priceless. Grinning ear to ear just thinking about it!

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        The hari kari the over-invested will commit when the girlfriend is revealed (mind you, I don’t know if a girlfriend exist but I’m just assuming a 29yr straight guy has some special lady he’s spending quality time with) will be a joy to witness.

    • 'NucksGal Says:

      Hey Amused, No offense taken at all.

      Again, I wasn’t complaining or anything about his tweeting habits. I saw the thread above about fan meltdowns over his lack of tweets & it got me thinking.

      Also, I didn’t even know celebs had mgrs for they’re twitter accts until I heard Ashton K say he was handing his over to his publicity team (after a very poor-taste Sandusky tweet).

      I don’t think he needs to tweet more. He’s probably busy out having a life (how dare he!). It was more a tone change, more charity/promo tweets & less amusing nonsense tweets. And I appreciate the promos of other bands, I learn tons of new music that way (not just from DC but twitter in general).

      Most of the people I choose to follow, I do it because they are musicians I like or they amuse me. If they do both… bonus!!

      I could be way off base with my observation (not a DC expert at all haha) and judging from your response, I am. But it started a conversation so I consider it a successful post.

      And please feel free to bitch all you want. If I’m going to ask a question or for an opinion, I can’t really complain when someone answers can I?

      • Nist Says:

        I’m a little brain-dead from reading the F3 thread on DCO lol, but a few people were discussing David’s twitter and the perception of a change in tone in there if you want to take a look.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        Thanks ‘NucksGal, I’m a pretty even keeled non bitchy sort usually.
        😉 I ‘ve seen a few people say the tone of his tweets have shifted. I haven’t really gotten that impressive so maybe I’m the one who’s not tuned into David, lol. There were all the silly tweets between David and Jim Shearer about their hair growing contest, watching The Mighty Ninja turtles in his bunk on the tour bus and what he brought at a truck stop (and no, I remember none of this from memory….I had to read his timeline 🙂 ).

        I follow a few celebs and musicians also. Some tweeted so damn much it was irritating and I had to un-follow, lol. Some only tweet about professional/promo things with some personal stuff thrown in, very few tweet everyday, multiple times a day. Makes me wonder, what in the world did people do before twitter. I guess they just enjoyed their favorite artist in whatever way that artist choose to share him/herself and fans didn’t really have an outlet to demand more interaction. Lol…..as Arsenio Hall used to say…..hmmmmm?

      • 'NucksGal Says:

        You made some good points. I had missed the hair tweets, they were pretty good actually.

        I have only looked at the posts on DCO once a long time ago. Never again (ugh!) but it’s interesting (disturbing?) that some people have noticed/said the same thing as I had about his tweets.

        But when I went back & looked at his timeline as Amused suggested, he actually tweets quite a lot compared to some musicians. Maybe he only tweets when he feels he (gasp) only has something to say?? Instead of filling timelines with mundane trivia & boring “I took a poo today” tweets. For which I’m grateful.

        I also want to add (off topic) that I’ve been off work for the past few months with a serious neck:back injury. This blog & twitter have provided me with many hours of entertainment, so thank you FDC & fellow posters (even trolls) for keeping me entertained.

        And, not trying to make excuses, but maybe that’s why I’ve had time to actually think about the possible change in tone in a complete stranger’s tweets? Or have I just taken one more step towards the dark-side (card please… 😉

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        “I took a poo today” 😀 That made me laugh out loud for real, ‘NucksGal. So sorry about your neck/back, hope you’re up and back on your feet soon. Don’t get the full tard card but I wave my semi-tard card with pride, lol.

  22. Beauxcefus Says:

    It’s onnn like donkey kong on the DCO F3 thread. Or maybe it s/b called the DEFCON 3 thread, lol It’s getting hot and nuclear over there 🙂

    *chomps popcorn, nom nom* 🙂

  23. Beauxcefus Says:

    http://www.davidcookofficial.com/us/content/f3-place-frank-fearless-and-forward-thinking-discussion-all-things-dc

    You mind passing this link on to some of the posters? We need feedback 🙂

    nexua.org/niji/butthurt-form/

    • Amusedbyfandom Says:

      LOL, butthurt has to be one of the most irritating words every invented….but that was pretty funny Beauxcefus.

    • Nist Says:

      I explained to you all upthread how the battle lines of F3 were shaping up and what it was going to turn into. It turned out even better than I expected. All I can say now is –

      Lol lol lol lol lol lol!!!! Starting the new year off right! Heh. It took me forever to get through two pages. I didn’t even try to go further back.

      Most hysterical, dramatic post so far is a tie between two tards: Cimorene and Qttaquito. One is pouty, one is superbossy.

      Heh. In this battle, the Leave a Light On thread is trailing far behind and DWoP is close to being declared to be on life support. Can they mount a comeback?

      *Continues to munch popcorn purchased on Monday, freshly popped tonight for a late-night snack*

    • JennPaz Says:

      I must be a glutton for punishment because I clicked on the link and perused some of the posts in that F3 thread on DCO… what in the hell are those people blathering about?! Why can’t they just ENJOY David’s music and accept it for what it is? Why must they over-analyze every little detail? I swear, they have waaaay too much time on their hands over at DCO… I just don’t get why they’re so damn concerned about the man’s career/twitter usage/management/promotion/touring, etc. It’s not their problem to worry about and try to fix. Leave all that to the people who ACTUALLY work in the music industry and know what they’re talking about. Hell, if I were David, I would just walk away from music and go get a 9-to-5 job somewhere far away from the crazies…

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        JennPaz:

        *Clap,clap,clap* Couldn’t have said it better myself…. except for that walking away from the music part, heh.

      • Fluffy Says:

        That’s how I know I properly cleaned out my Twitter feed – because I have no effing idea what’s going on. I did go peek at the F3 thread for about 5 seconds before I realized that unless I wanted to lose brain cells I should run away, and fast.

        I don’t have the energy to care that much about a musician, actor, whatever. Maybe I’m a bad fan, lol. I like music. Actually, I love music. If I like the musician’s personality, great, but unless you’re such a douchebag that I can’t get over it… fabulous personality isn’t required. Nor is any sort of insight into personal life.

        Regarding Twitter, does anyone else follow Matt Nathanson? He’s kinda my perfect Twitter musician. He’s entertaining on Twitter without having to give up any details on his personal life – I didn’t even know he was married (and my age) until I came across an article when I was randomly searching for his older music lol. Anyway, all people are different but I think he’s a good example that you can be engaging and funny and give out info without giving a whole lot of your personal self.

      • nonna-muss Says:

        Bad Fluffy, bad, bad Fluffy. 😀 I also tried to read the F3 thread and got about 2 comments into it when my head started spinning. I had to get the hell out of there.

        I follow Matt Nathanson, he’s not only the perfect musician twitter-er, he’s the perfect celebrity twitter-er. His tweet the other day about being ‘crop dusted’ at Lowe’s was hysterical. I like him because unlike other celebs he doesn’t constantly toot his own horn with endless self-promotion, he gives an insight to his personality without getting personal and he doesn’t constantly re-tweet messages from fans ad nauseum (ex: Blake Shelton). I look forward to Matt’s Album of the Day too.

      • sansdelusions Says:

        JennPaz – you make a good point above about the over-analyzing and obsessive attention to detail that is rampant on DCO – not just on F3 but also Dwop, the Lyrics thread,Music thread – etc – people like Minstrel, incipiit, close your eyes, elonwy – etc must have nothing better to do with their time – they write these long self-indulgent, schoolmarmish (read: lecturing) essays that are so Freaking convoluted and mindnumbingly boring – I am amazed that Anyone over there even reads that drivel – yet they apparently do – and constantly tongue bathing each other – it never changes – one thing I will say in Scott’s favor (can’t believe I’m pimping him) – is he at least changes his opinions/backtracks/has a modicum of humor at times that makes his posts at least readable – unlike the others I have mentioned – in any case – I totally agree w/those who say it’s Defcon-4 or whatever in there- I just hope they don’t swoop in and shut it down – or maybe that would be best.

      • Jen Says:

        Hmm I actually don’t agree with you on that one. Give me a minstrel, elionwy, or goodbyetoallthat over a likethis any day. They’re at least logical and tend to talk people off the ledge with actual facts when they get hysterical. I can’t stand the people who think their tastes directly coincide with David’s, so you get something like “I like harder rock and David clearly is trying desperately to move in that direction.” idk, stuff like that bugs me. But to each his own for sure.

        As to the DCO wank – it’s not even interesting wank to me lol. Kinda boring. Slightly less boring are the people naming David’s supposed gf on Twitter. I’m sure he’d love that. People were also none too pleased with Andrew for some crack about having to drink to deal with the fans at his latest twitter party. lol

      • Fluffy Says:

        Lol, I had to un-follow Blake Shelton pretty quickly between his RTs and his really stupid drunk jokes. Dude, if you’re going to make jokes make FUNNY jokes.

        Matt Nathanson is hilarious 🙂

      • JennPaz Says:

        Maybe Matt Nathanson should teach other celebrities how to wisely use Twitter!

        And could the reason for David taking a Twitter break be that he simply grew tired of all the b.s. the tards constantly barrage him with? Heck, I’m tired of it for him!! Let’s just hope he doesn’t do what Gavin DeGraw does… actually follow fans. Because you know if he does, the tards will be pooping their pants over it!

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        Well, I’m definitely following the right people because I’ve seen nothing about the name of David’s girlfriend in my timeline. Why do people care? Dude’s 29, famous and a musician, lol, of course he has a girlfriend. Dude’s with guitars always get laid. It’s some sort of law of nature 😉

        I have to agree with Jen, folks like Goodbyetoallthat and elionwy and even minstrel (most of the time) make DCO tolerable. They don’t squee over body parts and their posts are based in facts, they actually bother to try to understand the music industry as it is today not the crazy fantasy land that some of those other people including likethis seem to live in.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        Don’t think there’s any danger of David ever following fans. I had to un-follow Gavin fast after he sent out a least 50 fan re-tweets one day. Total turn off.

      • 'NucksGal Says:

        Am I a bad fan if I use a DC blog to discover other musicians? Is that cheating 😉

        Checked out Matt Nathanson on your recommendation & downloading his music now. I like it Next step, check him out on twitter.

        So, does he have tards I wonder? Gosh, how else will I find out if he is cute? Does he have a gf? What are the intricate details of every minute of his life? Kidding of course, but I do like the stuff I’ve heard so far, thanks.

      • nonna-muss Says:

        I guess I also follow the right people because I’ve not seen one tweet about his girlfriend and I’m happy about that. Are they tweeting HIM about her or just talking amongst themselves about it?

      • Fluffy Says:

        I’m sure Matt Nathanson has tards out there somewhere but I’ve been to a couple of his shows and I’d highly recommend catching him live if you can. If he does have tards they’re well-behaved 🙂 I mean, he has some hard core fans who know words to songs that *he* doesn’t even remember… but that was cute, not creepy, since they weren’t pushy about it but helped him when he forgot his lyrics lol.

        He’s absolutely hilarious, and he’s also one hell of a musician. Criminally underrated, I think, and has so much good music out there.

      • nonna-muss Says:

        Matt’s banter makes his shows like two acts in one. Part musician, part stand-up comedian. He opened for David once and that’s where I found out about him.

      • Jen Says:

        I actually only saw it because she/he said something to Andrew (I peruse his replies for kicks sometimes) and I followed it to the person’s timeline. That person and someone else were @replying David telling him to tell everyone about his girlfriend with a couple things about her. Curiously, the first person (keepingitreal22 I think) deleted the tweets and then locked the account. I don’t really get how that’s fun or amusing to someone but hey, what do I know?

      • Fluffy Says:

        Yep, saw him open for DC too. And then went and bought everything I could find of his music 🙂

        He makes me laugh so hard my stomach hurts lol. He has a very naughty sense of humor, I might add.

      • Jen Says:

        Hmmm on second thought, I wish I hadn’t named that person since you can find the other person that way. :/

      • nonna-muss Says:

        Ah yes, I’ve seen other accounts that have done the same. It asks David when he’s going to tell his fans about his girlfriend and then disappears and reappears a few days later as a different user name. It’s been going on for a long time. It’ll pop up again in a few days with a different name. IMO it’s someone craving attention and trying to stir the shit. I thought you meant that there were a lot of fans actually tweeting his girlfriends name.

      • Jen Says:

        No no, just those couple of random trolls. I just hadn’t seen it myself I guess.

      • burt Says:

        Ah yes, those tweets have been doing the rounds for years. I remember them from a while back and said something like “when are you going to introduce the fans to your beautiful girlfriend?” Totally worded like the weird tard messages always are! How do people have the time for that crap and what is the point? Do they even get much attention?

  24. sansdelusions Says:

    My issue with minstrel and Incipit mainly ( not goodbyetoallthat – dunno her) is not that they aren’t necessarily knowledgeable – it’s just the preachy sameness – over and over that irritates me – but it’s no biggie – I get they are the queen bees – just prefer not to be talked down to and admonished – finger wagging just isn’t my thang I guess – *shrugs*

    • Karen P. Currie Says:

      Personally I’d like to quoth that elionwy chick right in the eye. She is the most sanctimonious cow of the bunch.

      *ducks*

  25. burt Says:

    I agree about Matt Nathanson – perfect example of how someone in the public eye can share themselves and not share all the details of their life. Although he’s more open with details, I also find Rob Thomas entertaining. Anyone else you guys like? I’m always looking for good music/tweeters!

    I won’t go on but I don’t understand what’s happened, I guess there has to be a reason for the change and we just don’t know it (there HAS been one). He used to tweet around once a day, didn’t share too much but showed his personality and sense of humor. I miss those tweets (I would say that about anyone I enjoy on there by the way!) and hate how it now looks almost label run with mostly promo tweets but with predictable “Happy holidays!” messages thrown in. If read cold there’s a lot of asking for money and not a lot else recently – which I totally know isn’t how it is (I hope!) but it’s just become… dare I say it… boring and predictable. (Feel I have to justify that I say that as a big fan of his and I don’t mean any disrespect and I’m not being a demanding fan – it’s his decision, it’s just my opinion and I doubt he gives a shit what I think anyway!)

    If he doesn’t want to tweet then it’s understandable and he shouldn’t be forced to but the “too busy living” reason people are giving is crap. Everyone is busy, especially musicians, but most manage to find time. It’s also isn’t because he’s having a break from work because it’s been changing gradually over the last year/18 months (maybe longer). Someone here said he told them he had grown tired of the hardcore tweeters but if true, he shouldn’t let that get in the way and start blocking them – it’s that few idiots spoiling it for the masses thing again which will stop his career growing.

    Obviously I’ll live whatever happens with him on Twitter, it’s not life or death and he isn’t there to entertain just me. There are plenty of other entertaining people around (who knew?!), I just think it’s a shame and a missed marketing tool. I almost want to shake him and tell him to lighten up especially after that “self imposed drunk Twitter ban” tweet on New Years Eve. Go with it David, give us all a laugh! 😀

    • AmyB Says:

      He was very reluctant if I remember correctly to even start up the twitter account. Then when he did at first his tweets were few and far between. Then a few months in he seemed to really enjoy it. He even got all the guys to sign up. I have also noticed that his tweets seem to be more towards the marathon and raising money for that. Even his thank you for the birthday wishes was geared towards that aspect. I really hope that he is not backing away from it because of the few that tweet him constantly. And he is just taking sometime away from it. No I don’t want him to tweet every second or even every day for that matter. I do enjoy reading his tweets and loved them when they were fun and he was showing his personality.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        Well, if you read back on his timeline, he has tweeted funny stuff-the hair contest with Jim Shearer for instance and as I stated up thread some things from tour. He was never a prolific tweeter, I don’t see that changing, so fans that need him to provide 24hr/7days/week entertainment might want to just accept it, lol, instead of beating on their chests and saying more, more, more, we’re insatiable. There’s tons of celebs and musicians that don’t use twitter, so it’s effect as marketing tool to reel in non fans or very casual fans is still up for debate. IMO of course

      • burt Says:

        Depends on your definition of prolific I guess but I would call once a day prolific. Now it’s once every week or so which is a big drop. Yes, he goes through phases of tweeting other stuff but a lot recently has been promotion. I don’t blame him for that, I used to think he needed to promote himself more on there, now I just think he needs a balance – who likes following someone who always seems to be asking for something but doesn’t say or share much else?

        He has a lot of followers who evidently didn’t buy his record so it wouldn’t hurt to promote more to them (himself not just his causes etc). His tweets used to show his personality and he came across well so that’s never a bad thing to show to casual fans.

        Like I said, I miss the tweets but I’m respectful of whatever he does – it’s his life, his career – and I’m not losing any sleep over it. Just think it’s a shame and a missed opportunity – Twitter is such a massive thing, tweets can have a massive impact in a lot of ways and it’s a way for people to connect (if they chose to do that) so I think anyone who doesn’t take advantage of it is missing a trick. Thing is, these comments are coming from a fan who doesn’t demand more, more, more so it shows that the change is being noticed by more than those few fans who do.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        I guess Burt, as a fan, to *me* it’s just not a big deal. Certainly not worth the hand wringing forecasts of doom if he doesn’t step up his twitter production that those folks on DCO ramble on and on about 🙂
        Frankly, *I* wouldn’t care if he never tweeted again as long as I get more new music quicker and more shows in my area. I’m selfish like that, lol.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        Shoot, hit the post button too soon…..Archie had over 500k followers, obviously the vast majority didn’t buy his last record( no tomatoes please, I like the kid and impressed with his doing missionary work for 2 years). My only point is twitter followers don’t equal actual buyers. Ashton Kutcher has over 9 million followers, dude would have more success opening a paper bag than movie where he’s the leading man.

      • Karen P. Currie Says:

        Maybe he just hasn’t had a “good poo” worth tweeting about. I, for one, know how THAT feels.

        Amused, I am still laughing about that comment.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        I got a good laugh out of it too Karen P., but the “poo” comment should be credited to ‘NucksGal.

    • JennPaz Says:

      Burt, you said my two favorite words: Rob Thomas!!

      • just don't get it Says:

        well – looks like David has caught up with his reading here – he just posted 2 funny tweets about his road trip home with Andrew. and the fandom errupts!

      • nonna-muss Says:

        Yes, they are of course demanding he tweet about the entire road trip. I don’t understand why they can’t just read his tweets, chuckle and move on with their day. I see the usuals responded to him with multiple tweets—is that really necessary people? I don’t think he doubts that no one was paying attention. I doubt he’s worried that you’ve all forgotten about him. He knows you all read his tweets, he doesn’t need a million and one responses from the peanut gallery. He tweeted, don’t make him sorry that he did. Sheesh!

      • just don't get it Says:

        “just read his tweets, chuckle and move on with their day.” I had to laugh because that is EXACTLY what I did! You get me Nonna!

      • 'NucksGal Says:

        I love Rob Thomas, another one who gets twitter. He’s amusing & personable & does good promo. I also like his song-of-the-day & have found some great new songs that way.

        And I must admit, I prefer Dave’s (anyone’s) infrequent tweets to the 50-a-day plus fan retweets that some artists do. Stopped following Gavin for that too.

        A very funny tweeterer (?) with a crude but amusing sense of humour is @philthyffi from the band Fighting For Ithaca (@fightforith). They’re a local Vancouver band of young funny guys who entertain the heck out of me. Sometimes they do a lot of retweets but in spurts & not everyday. Actually found them on twitter first then went & checked out their music just cuz they make me laugh.

        Just don’t mention penguins … …

  26. just don't get it Says:

    well – looks like David has caught up with his reading here – he just posted 2 funny tweets about his road trip home with Andrew. and the fandom errupts!

  27. just don't get it Says:

    i may have just posted that comment twice – i apologize.

  28. Chris Says:

    So I see my post from DCO was referenced here so I kinda feel the need to explain myself since I am now perceived as one of the crazy tards. Yes, I am the one who made the cult reference on the F3 thread. I am mostly a lurker at DCO and found this site via the RCA Ed meltdown a few months ago. I think some of the stuff here crosses the line but I also found some funny stuff, the thread where you guys were claiming body parts and the Glamdiary stuff were hilarious. But I also appreciated the way DCO used to be. I used to enjoy the thoughtful, intelligent conversation that went on there along with research and data that a couple of posters took the time to collect. But anymore the place has turned into a squee-fest where you are only allowed to post such thoughts as the album is a masterpiece, or his tummy is so cute or I love his right leg. Any post that is perceived as critical or negative riles up the hornets nest and then the mod steps in and deletes everything. Now I admit that my post was over the top and I really don’t think the collective fandom is a cult. But I don’t appreciate the censorship and I don’t feel I should have to back up my thoughts, feeling and opinions with research, data and graphs. It’s like if you don’t agree that David’s music, career, management and label are wonderful then you are not welcome at DCO. Btw, feel free to google me, I’m not on twitter nor a member of the weeds or roses clique. I’m just a slightly over-invested fan who managed to see Dave on Idol only due to the writers strike that year. I believe he has enormous talent and it is frustrating to me to reconcile the momentum he had coming off the show with the career he has now.

    • nonna-muss Says:

      Hi Chris. I didn’t get the impression that anyone here thought you were off base. Maybe I’m wrong, but if you did indeed call them a cult or say they have a cult mentality at DCO (not everyone, I don’t have to name names, we all know who belongs in that category) then I’d say yours was one of the most accurate posts in the F3 thread. I’ve posted only a few times at DCO and have been edited twice for disagreeing with the mob mentality. I’m a fan of David’s, however I do not worship the ground he walks on and that just won’t do at DCO. During the tour I went there to look at set lists and what not, but have only been back once since the tour ended and that was to peek at the F3 thread. The regular members at DCO, in my most humble opinion, make any member with an unrecognizable user name feel most unwelcome.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        Have to agree with Nonna on the regs just flat out ignoring new posters not in their particular clique, but that also happened back in DWOP’s supposed hay day, lol.

        Within any group of people your going to get your glass half full and glass half empty types. The trick is for people who have fundamental differences to post with respect to each other. The existence of the F3 thread is proof enough that critical opinions of every aspect of David’s professional life are allowed, whether folks actually know what they’re talking about or not, lol. Your cult post painted a whole lot of people with a broad brush. There *are* fans that love the album ( up thread I wrote that there are 2 songs that I skip all the time). Those people should not be made to feel that they somehow lack musical intellect, nor should others who feel differently be made to feel like big meanies 🙂 Blame can be placed on both sides imo.

        Your last sentence seems to sum up where a lot of tension comes from: “It is frustrating to reconcile the momentum he had coming off the show to the career he has now”

        Hmmm…..”the career he has now”. Well, he’s not a world wide superstar for sure, but is he a failure? If that was expected than I can see where some are frustrated or disappointed. The music industry has shifted significantly in the last few years. Was it a good idea to go away for 3 years? Probably not…but grieving is a bitch…been there done that, willing to cut him some slack on that one. Sticking with just idols, Daughtry opened well below his norm at 130K and Durbin ( popular guy on a popular season) opened at 26,000 and his singles as far as I know haven’t gotten traction on any format.

        TLM opened better than some pop/rock, rock artists including his tour partner Gavin DeGraw. I think his co-tour and solo tour were in general successful with some sellouts. Single choices could have been way better but, water under the bridge now. The last numbers that the number nerds got for the Billboard thread showed that TLM was selling about 1000 copies/wk. Is he a celeb that appears on Entertainment Tonight or TMZ every night or the tabloids….no. Is that the mark of success? IDK, I know I’m a fan of a lot of artists that are fantastic but not pop culture celebrities, I enjoy them for what they give me, which is good music. I hold David to that same simple standard (btw, they all have songs on their albums that I skip…no perfect albums out there) .

    • Rubber Ducky Says:

      I believe he has enormous talent

      😆 spoken like a true tard

  29. Jen Says:

    @chursy
    @mrandrewcook, great your pimping music, want you to listen to an artist you may know, david cook, please start pimping him. love you both

    Classy.

    • nonna-muss Says:

      What in the fuck is wrong with her? That’s plain old rude.

    • MK Says:

      Yeah, because Andrew has followers that aren’t already fans of his brother. *rolls eyes*

    • Dani Says:

      MY personal fav

      chursy
      @rcapromo, listen suits, what is wrong with you. you have a world class artist, david cook, what is the matter u dont want to sell albums

      • MK Says:

        Bwhahahahahahaha! That’s a gem. If someone tweeted that to me, they’d get blocked, after I tweeted back to them that they are an idiot.

        RCA does promote David, when there’s SOMETHING TO PROMOTE. How hard is that for these idiots to understand?

      • JennPaz Says:

        Apparently very hard…

      • nonna-muss Says:

        Don’t these idiots realize that tweeting shit like that doesn’t help him at all? I guess not.

      • AmyB Says:

        What this is going to do is nothing. I know I wouldn’t do anything if I got a tweet like this. I might even promote the person even less. She doesn’t get that this type of stuff only hurts doesn’t help him. Her tweet to Andrew was way over the line. I think she’s just an old woman that has nothing better to do. And doesn’t understand about how things work.

      • Amusedbyfandom Says:

        At least these idiots aren’t signing a petition to have David sing the national anthem at the Superbowl like the crazy glamberts are doing for Adam Lambert. Just when you think your your fandom is crazy there’s always one out there that’s much worse, lol.

  30. MK Says:

    Did you all see this exchange last night on twitter?

    Yes, Race For Hope is just a convention for David Cook fans. If David’s not there, they won’t be either. Proof positive that they only go for facetime with David and not about the charity at all.

    • Karen P. Currie Says:

      Not only are these ones supreme uber-tards, they are so incredibly insensitive to the whole point of RFH.

      A convention?? Seriously??


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